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From our December 2002 Issue
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Melting beeswax, Beekeeping supplies, Is the farm open to browse the items or is it just orders from the Internet, Any stores in the West Palm Beach? Yellow jackets, different qualities of 100% beeswax, Wine via internet?

11/22/02 - sldrn@hotmail.com
Good Morning, - Yesterday I ordered 5 pounds of bulk beeswax from you. My question is about melting it. Can it be grated and melted in the microwave? Should I melt it in a double boiler? Does it matter if I have a gas or electric stove? Do I have to keep my beeswax melting pot separate from my kitchen pots? I am making tea light candles. This is going to be my first time. About how many tea light can I expect to make from 5 lb. of wax? From everything I have read on the internet beeswax lasts the longest, burns the cleanest and has a low melt temp, correct? Do I have to add anything to the wax to make tea lights?
Thank you for your help, Shelly Sapp

  • Thank you for your order, it will be shipped UPS on Monday.
  • I don't think melting in a microwave would work very good. Beeswax should be melted in a double boiler. Any heat source is ok. It would be better to use a separate stainless steel pot for beeswax - do not use aluminum or iron - it will darken the wax. Our votives weigh about 2 oz (8 per pound) tea lights are smaller and you should be able to make more/lb. Do not add anything to the beeswax. The wick size is important. Experiment with different sizes. We use a 'Large Zinc" Wick From Pourette Mfg. Beeswax uses a larger wick than crude oil based parraffin.

    Good Luck - Bill


November 22, 2002 - jjhholden@comcast.net
I am interested in two things: glass jars for honey- hexagon shape plastic bears foundation-type wax sheets to make roll-up candles. Do you have a catalog?(paper) - Thank you

  • I am sorry but we do not carry beekeeping supplies, please check our resources page. - Bill

11/22/02 - tug@acd.net
Is the farm open to browse the items or is it just orders from the Internet that you take. If the farm is open, what are the hours? Thanx, Deanne tug@acd.net

  • Our farm is only open in September & October - the rest of the year you must order on line.
    Sometimes people have e-mailed an order to me and they have picked it up on the porch, but we do not have a store front open at all during the holidays. - Bill

11/21/02 - rebmdc@aol.com
Are there any stores in the West Palm Beach, Florida area that carry your products? Rich Bigelow

  • We are only local in Michigan - However our website sells all over the country.

11/1/02 - mamu@sprintmail.com
Greetings. You probably won't recognize our names but you would know us on site. We come and pick small amounts of grapes and fill our jugs with honey every year. We noticed you guys have lots of yellow jackets and were wondering if you could answer a question for us. We noticed a lot of yellow jacket activity outside our bedroom window and realized they were nesting inside our overhang, although we can't see them. We didn't want to kill them so we let them be. Not that it is cold we would like to find the nest and maybe move it if we can. Do you know if this can be done? Should we just tear it out? What happens if we don't do anything? We had several exterminators over that will spray them with chemicals but we don't really want that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mindy McClure & Mark Udell

  • They may die over the winter, but I would just wait until the evening and spray them with hornet spray.

November 6, 2002 - joleh@bellsouth.net
Are there different qualities of 100% beeswax used for dinner candles--some harder than others? If so, what do I ask for when ordering the hardest type? Thanks, Janice

  • All of our beeswax is 100% beeswax and all are just as hard. (although some candles have a scent such as bayberry added) We use no petroleum based waxes at all at our farm!
  • Sometimes the color of the wax may vary from golden to a golden brownish color - depending how our honeybees make it.


November 2, 2002 - gumshoe707@aol.com
Do you sell wine via internet?

  • We do not sell wine at all - only fruit. Our vineyard is for homewinemakers - u-pick, u-make the wine. - Bill

 


From our November 2002 Issue
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Interested in grape farm, scented beeswax, white beeswax, October candle winner, green grape jelly didn't thicken, I can't believe that we missed your season, I am looking for a place to get married, canadice wine problem, beeswax for making skin moisturizing cremes,heat source using beeswax?

October 30, 2002 - julius.fandi@lippobank.co.id
Hi... I'm from Indonesian,i'm so interesting with your grape farm that is great . i love the grape fruit and my hobiis is to plant the grape at my garden. sorry if my english is not good. I perhaps sometime can be visiting your farm. or i working in your farm ,can i? ok.., this my letter regards, fandy

  • Fandy - Many people like to plant a few vines in their yard after visiting our place. We will not be open until next September but you will be on our mailing list & receive our newsletter where you will see what happens here every month of the year. We do not have any regular employment opportunities here, just local high school youths.
    See you next fall. - Bill

October 29, 2002 - VMPIN99@AOL.COM
PLEASE TELL ME HOW DO YOU PUT SCENT IN THESE CANDLES. WITH THE STRONG HONEY SMELL THE WAX HAS. I KNOW WHITE BEES WAX IS VERY EXPENSIVE. DO YOU SELL WHITE BEES WAX? PLEASE REPLY. VMPIN99@AOL.COM. - I AM INTERESTED IN WHITE BEES WAX. LESS SCENT. WHAT IS THE SHIPPING ON 10 LBS. + 2LBS PACKAGEING. ZIP 46222 INDIANAPOLIS, IN

  • It is very easy to add scent to beeswax candles and although the natural scent of beeswax is very nice the additional scent just adds to it. We do not sell "pure white" beeswax. This is wax that has been "bleach" by the processor. The natural wax that is harvested by a beekeeper is usually a shade of yellow gold. Visit our bulk beeswax page:
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.bigstep.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=731499%7C845145&PRID=650099
  • All of our wax products are un scented unless otherwise stated.

    Shipping 10 lbs of wax to your area would cost about $11.75 - you can get more info from our shipping page:
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/shippingrates.htm

    Thanks -Bill


October 31, 2002 - rosebud7188@cs.com
: I would just like to thank you very much for the gift of beeswax candles that I won. I was very surprised that I won. - Rosemary Suzuki


10/21/02 - Sirs, If you have any info to my problem, I'd appreciate a reply.
After preparing green grape jelly, the jelly didn't thicken. It's to runny to be used even for syrup. The directions on the pectin product were followed - so we don't know what the problem was. Do you have any suggestions to re-do this jelly.
Thanks, Marlys - marlys@tingley.com

  • I do not know what could of happened, we have made jelly from green grapes many times. Try visiting the Ball Corporations website: www.homecanning.com or call their Home Canners' Help Line at (1-800-240-3340) for lots of information on canning, jelly making, pectin & supplies. - Bill

Sunday, October 6, 2002 - ckfulk1@aol.com
I can't believe that we missed your season. We live in Oxford and to make a long story short just found out about you. We were going to pick grapes next weekend, and looked on the web site and this is it!!! It's 6:10 Sunday and your closed for the season. We even bought a special pot from Finland to make juice and jelly!! Well I hope your season was good and we will mark our calender for next year. Can I make white grape jelly from grapes found at meijers?---our next plan of attack. Thanks---see you next year:) Kelly


10/15/02 - amberlynnb@yahoo.com
I am looking for a place to get married and I've always wanted a vineyard wedding...I was wondering if at all possible your vineyard might be available, if not if you could suggest any other vineyards in the vicinity. Thank you, and are you open in october? Sincerely, Amber

  • That would not be possible at our vineyard, but you could try:
    Valerio Poliuto - Chateau Valerio Vineyards
    39085 Moravian
    Clinton Township, MI 48036
    phone: (586) 709-8989 fax: (586) 465-6633
    email: chateauvalerio@yahoo.com

October 18, 2002 - fsollars@aol.com
Hello! - I have made 5 gallons of wine from your canadice grapes picked in September. It is a little too acidic and the finsih has a bite to it. Is there anything I can do to soften it or make it less acidic? Thank you, Frank Sollars

  • If the acidity is high you could always "stretch" it a little by adding about a 1/2 gallon of sugar water (1 lb sugar in 1/2 gallon water) . You also may want to sweeten it to taste. Add some sugar and taste it. Caution - it may start fermenting again. If so wait until it finishes & do it again. You may do this a few times. The yeast in the wine will continue to process the sugar until the alcohol level is high enough to kill the yeast. You could also try using some potassium sorbate (from winemaking stores) to prevent refermentation.
  • Also a little age will help. I do not usually drink wines this new (although many people do) since they will be very rough at this point. Good Luck - Bill


October 14, 2002 - bob04005@yahoo.com
What is the weight of your largest 2-wick candle which you sell for $27.95?? What would you recommend for a heat source using beeswax? - Bob Faucher


October 7, 2002 - Pfrohlich@aol.com
Can I purchase beeswax alone for use in making skin moisturizing cremes?What form does it come in? Thanks, Phyllis Frohlich

  • We sell lots of beeswax in small cakes for smaller amounts & 1/2 lb blocks that come in 5lb and 10 lb units.
    Visit our bulk wax page

 


 

From our October 2002 Issue
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Class trip, grapes for merlot and chianti, batik dyeing, 6 bushels of concord grapes, candle-making for our historical re-anactment, pick candles up at the farm, the juice would be frozen, Are your prices in the newsletter retail or wholesale? freeze concord and niagra grapes, shipping honey, recipe for Grape Juice, hard time finding beeswax candles, third place award in the Michigan State Fair, beauty treatments using honey, recipe for making soap from beeswax, I wanted to know if those seeds from each grape variety will grow, homemade sugar free jellies.

9/1/02 - Kevin_Cohen@fmo.com
I have a friend who is a 6th grade teacher and he asked me if he could bring his class to your orchard for a class trip. They are studying plant biology and he thinks that an active and productive vineyard would be a fantastic learning experience. Since he does not have email he asked if I could send this request to you. He has picked grapes at your vineyard before.

He teaches from Monday through Thursday and would love to make a field trip to your establishment. Can you accommodate him?

We are not really set up for tours, but if someone wants to come out on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays that is fine. We are not here monday to thursday. The children must be chaperoned, as we have no additional people to escort them. Bill

September 2, 2002 - mjbonanno@wayne.edu
Would you tell me if you have grapes for merlot and chianti. Can you make these into juices for purchase as well? What would be the cost? Please let me know at your earliest convenience. Thank you.

  • The merlot grape only grows in California. We grow 3 red wine grapes at our farm, DeChaunac, Marechal Foch & Baco Noir. Although we do sell juice, a much better red wine is made from fermenting on the skins.
    Since we are short of grapes this year, you are probably better off coming out and picking them than ordering juice. Check our vineyard page for details: http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/vineyard.htm - Bill
    • If I usually make merlot and chianti, which of the grapes that you grow would you recommend to make a smooth red with similar characteristics? Since I do not have a crusher, would you be able to crush the grapes that I pick/purchase so I can ferment them and press them later on? Please let me know at your earliest convenience.
      Thanks again.
      • I am sorry but we do not have a crusher available. Next year we plan to have crushing facillities available for customers & also crushed frozen red grapes.   Foch and Baco are ripe for wine this weekend. Bill
    •  

 


Monday, September 2, 2002 - hawnella@sd22.bc.ca
I really enjoyed your informative web site. I was looking for an explanation of what rosin does when mixed with other waxes. I'm particularly interested in a wax recipe for batik dyeing. Thanking you in anticipation, Allen Haworth
  • Thank you for your comments. I am not familiar with rosin and batik dyeing. I will ask for comments in our newsletter. Our readers are very knowledgeable. Bill
 

9/3/02 - joey@mennies.com
What are the chances of getting 6 bushels of concord grapes?
  • I know there are a lot more than 6 bushels of concord in the vineyard, but they may go very fast. You may want to consider using Baco Noir, Foch or DeChaunac and possibly adding some Buffalo for the concord flavor if we run out. We are first come, first serve in the vineyard. It will be at least 2 weeks more before concord is ripe. Check our Up dates at: http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/newsletterarchive/index.htm See you in the vineyard! Bill

Tuesday, September 3, 2002 - programs@bchm.org
Thanks for a great website. I am the Program Coordinator of the Brazoria County Historical Museum in Texas and am very interested in candle-making for our historical re-anactment called Austin Town! Thank you! Sincerely, Ace Filipp

9/7/02 - barkat@surfbest.net
I have been visiting your stand for the past few years. I am happy now to have E-mail, and find out even more about your farm. I like driving out to the farm and was wondering if I may request candles on-line, and pick them up at the farm rather then having them shipped. I use beeswax candles as part of birthday celebrations in my classroom. Last year I decorated a taper with each child's class "symbol" (each child had a different species of flower for a symbol) and presented it to them for their birthday. I also light a beeswax candle each day at the beginning of our story-telling time. I use a lovely verse and the whole effect brings the children into focus before I tell the story.
  • Yes, it is a lot easier if you visit us on line and then email me with the order.& you can pick up your candle order at the farm on the weekend. We do not carry everything that we have on our site at our small sales stand due to lack of space. Also I will pay the Michigan sales tax when you pick them up at the farm on the weekends. Just email your order to me.
    Thanks - Bill

9/10/02 - OhWhyNot99@aol.com
Regarding my juice order. The 22nd would be fine or even a couple of days later. Actually I would like a little darker color, maybe I could come out if you actually press it on the 22nd and take some of the skins with me. If not, that's fine too. Thank you, Bill McPherson

  • What I do is get the grapes picked on some weekend (I have kids do it if the weather is good - otherwise we must wait till the next week). Then I press them & put them in a 5 gallon pail with a plastic liner and put them in a freezer. I then call the customer & he can pick them up on the weekend - they are usually frozen solid so no unattended fermentation can begin. I cannot give you an actual date of when they will be pressed. Bill
    • Thank you for getting back with me. I wasn't aware the juice would be frozen. With that in mind, and assuming they would be picked and pressed before Saturday October 5th, it would be good if I could pick them up then. Assuming they would be ready. I know that's a little later than my original date but it would work fine. If you think they could be available by then please let me know. Also, would you like me to leave my credit card number to hold them? Let me know. Bill McPherson
      • October 5 would most likely be a good date for pick up - I will call you when the are done anyway. That is another good reason for freezing them - it gives you more flexibility. Bill
 

9/4/02 - fngrtips@frontiernet.net
Are your prices in the newsletter retail or wholesale? On the 61/2" tapers are your prices for one pair (since they are connected by the wick) or $3.75 per candle and $7.50 for a pair connected? What quanity do you consider volumn and what would the wholesale price be? 6 1/2 " (Same with votives) Thank-you Jan Mackie-Cobb

  • Thank you for your inquiry. We do not sell wholesale. All tapers are sold by the pair. If the site says $7.00 per pair - it means two candles connected together for $7.00. Sometimes we give a slight discount for orders over $300 depending on what is purchased. - Bill
 

9/12/02 - Please tell me if I can freeze concord and niagra grapes in the fresh state, to use in baking at a later date. Thank you very much. Pat Giering

  • Yes. Grapes can be easily frozen. Quite often we freeze seedless grapes for a frozen snack. I suppose they might become a little soft after thawing. Try it! Bill
 

9/16/02 - frostypines@webtv.net
I want to know if you ship honey and price and a 800 number for ordering. Thank you Dorene

  • No 800 number, but we do ship honey - go to our honey page: Bill
 

9/15/02 - mbruni@worldnet.att.net
Would you by chance have a good recipe for Grape Juice. I have an abundance of Purple and White Concord Grapes for use. Thank you, Mary Bruni Waukesha, WI

 

9/17/02 - tom48732@hotmail.com
when will be the best time to come down and pick concord grapes? do you have any concord grapes? do you have white concord grapes?

  • We are starting to pick concords this weekend. We do grow Niagara if that is what you mean by white concord and they are also ready this week.
    Bill

 

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - gjfm@midwaynet.net
I have been looking for pure beeswax candles and am having a hard time finding any. Are your's pure beeswax and if not what percentage are they. Thank you. Judy

  • Our candles are 100% pure beeswax, produced by Michigan honeybees, made from nectar from Michigan flowers. There is no paraffin (made from crude oil) used at all at our farm. Beeswax burns cleaner and drips less than other oils. Visit our Candle Shop for more info.
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/candleshop.htm Bill
 

Mon, 30 Sep 2002 - SBoskovich@aol.com
Bill, Yes, I will gladly take the white juice! I am glad you were able to get some white juice for me this season. I will come by sometime this weekend to pick it up. Steve

P.S. By the way, I received a third place award in the Michigan State Fair
this year for my 2001 Seyval Blanc made from your grapes and a first place
award for my 2001 Marechal Foch. Thanks for such great grapes.


Friday, September 27, 2002 - mjmbee@msn.com
I was wondering if you have any recipes for home made beauty treatments using honey. Thanks a lot.

  • I do not have information on beauty treatments using honey but I will ask our newsletter readers, they are very knowledgeable. Bill
  • ??? Does anyone have any info - if so please email me
 

9/28/02 - Leeford@aol.com
We are a homeschool group that is doing a unit study on bees. We'd like to know if you have a recipe for making soap from beeswax. Thanks!

  • I do not have information on soaps using honey but I will ask our newsletter readers, they are very knowledgeable. I know there are many soap "rooms" on yahoo. You may want to check there. I would like to work with soaps using honey & beeswax in the future and possibly sell them on our site. Bill
 

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - putitout@surfbest.net
We are realy enjoying the grapes we bought at your farm. Thanks for all the answers about my own vines.


9/26/02 - mkogrady@comcast.net
Bill,I picked some Foch and Baco a couple weeks ago, and finished the first phase of the wine. It s now in glass. I wanted to know if those seeds from each grape variety will grow if I plant some or will a special root stock be required to allow the plant to adapt to our soil conditions? Also I would appreciate some good links on grape growing if you have any. I think I might be able to squeeze a few vines in around my property, but have zero understanding of the care and feeding of grape vines. Mike O Grady

  • Mike The seeds that you collected will not necessarily grow a Foch or Baco plant, but a cross breed between those and some other vine that pollinated it. This is how grapes breeders create new varieties. Grapes are propagated by making cuttings - pieces of dormant wood about 3 to 5 buds long and then planted in a nursery in the spring. There are many usefull links to nurseries and grape growing info on our wine info page at:
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/winemakingresources.htm Good luck Bill
 

10/1/02 - phillman@diamondcs.net
Dear Honey Flow Farm,
I am looking for a way to make homemade sugar free jellies. By sugar free, I mean no dextrose, maltose, corn sweetener, cane, invert sugar, High fructose, sucrose, corn syrup, glucose, galactose, and artificial sweeteners.
In the market place one can buy products called spreadable fruit, they contain natural fruit juices, sometimes referred to as fructose (natural fruit sugar). Can you please help me?
Thank you for your time, Pete Hillman

  • Most jellies do contain sugar. There are some puree recipes on our grape cooking page that might be usefull.
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/graperecipes.htm
    or our jelly page: http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/jellymaking.htm
  • Maybe you need to boil out the liquid & make a puree without sugar. If you come up with a good recipe please send it to me an we will send you a pair of beeswax candles. Good luck Bill

 

 


 

From our September 2002 Issue
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Wax dolls,    Baco Noir juice,   What types do you have?    Making jelly and jam from purple grapes,   More Baco Noir juice
"honey powder" ,    Bees wax for leather and timber,    Pick and hold 700 lbs of Concord,  More grape jelly
Candle-making classes? ,    Beeswax to use making my lotions and creams,    DeChanunac and Cayuga White,
I am the august candle winner!!!!


Saturday, August 31, 2002 - Cathystrode@hawaii.rr.com


Thursday, August 29, 2002 - dnicley@createccorp.com
I have picked there for many years, and love your farm. I want to get 5 gallons of Baco Noir juice. It usually is picked by U-Pickers too early, and then there isn't any lft when it should be picked. How do I order the juice so I know I'll get some? - Dave Nicley

  • Dave
    I have booked your order for Baco Juice. The last few years have been very challenging due to frosts. Last year was the very first year for baco & there was not very much. This year the vines are much stonger and I have a lot of them. The baco crop is not as bad as others (spring frost this year) but it is still short and I have had a lot of calls for it because it is new at our vineyard. I can NEVER guarantee any juice order - I just hope I get to it befor U-Pick customers do.
    I will call you when it is available. - Bill
  • 07:21 AM 8/30/02 -0400, you wrote: Thanks Bill, if there's a problem with the Baco, I've made some good wine from your Foch, that would be a good substitute. Do you let the juice sit in the skins for awhile, or do you just press as a Rose'?
  • Fine with the Foch if no Baco. I do let the foch set a short while and also foch normally has a lot of color in its juice compared to dechaunac or others. - Bill

Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 06:31:35 - mgbrew@comcast.net
Hi, just moved to MI from Oregon, where I started maing wine from grapes. Is there a way to reserve certain quantities of grapes come harvest time? What types do you have? I live in W. Bloomfield now. Also, do you have a crusher/stemmer onsite for customer use? - Thanks, Michael Gonzales

  • We do not have a stemmer/crusher. I will notify you when grapes are ripe. - Bill


Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 20:21:03 - ebaker@capecod.net
I am interested in making jelly and jam from purple grapes that I have grown.Can you help with a tart recipe ? Thanks a lot! Shirley


01:47 PM 8/29/02 - dnicley@createccorp.com
I have picked there for many years, and love your farm. I want to get 5 gallons of Baco Noir juice. It usually is picked by U-Pickers too early, and then there isn't any lft when it should be picked. How do I order the juice so I know I'll get some? - Dave Nicley

  • Dave - I have booked your order for Baco Juice. The last few years have been very challenging due to frosts. Last year was the very first year for baco & there was not very much. This year the vines are much stonger and I have a lot of them. The baco crop is not as bad as others (spring frost this year) but it is still short and I have had a lot of calls for it because it is new at our vineyard. I can NEVER guarantee any juice order - I just hope I get to it befor U-Pick customers do.
  • I will call you when it is available. - Bill


06:41 PM 8/24/02 - Cherie Casey - ccasey7@surfmk.com
Is there a recipe for making honey powder?   I can't seem to find one.

  • I have heard of some developers experimenting with "honey powder" but do not know of anyone producing it. I would guess the problem with honey powder would be keeping it dry - honey always wants to absorb moisture. Lots of peopl use our honey & wax in cosmetics and lotions & I have had other questions on honey powder. - Bill

05:45 PM 8/27/02 - bernardhellmann@optusnet.com.au
Hello and thank you for your reply,
The reason that I mailed you was that I was hoping to find out about some recipies using Bees wax, respectively for leather and timber, could you please at all help me?
Thank you - Bernard

  • I am sorry but I do not have recipes using beeswax in leather or timber - If you find some please let me know. - Bill

01:45 PM 8/26/02 - Kevin_Cohen@fmo.com
I 've been buying grapes from you for the past copule of years and was interested in finding out if you could pick and hold 700 lbs of Concord for me. It is difficult for me to get out to you on the weekends this year.
Do you do any custom orders like this and if so what is your charge.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon. - Kevin

  • I am sorry but we do not custom pick grapes for people or reserve them either. Everything is U-Pick and first come - first serve. Even grape juice orders are not really quaranteed - Customers may get to the grapes before we do. This year the supply of concord may be quite short due to spring frosts. It may be better if you looked at a combination of Foch-Baco-DeChaunac. They seemed to have survived the spring frost better.
  • We are also open on Fridays. - Bill


Saturday, August 24, 2002 - ttrantham3189@cs.com
Comments or questions: I am trying to make jelly, but I can't seem to find out what type of juice is needed to make grape jelly. Can you help? Thanks

  • At our vineyard many people mix lots of different kinds of grapes to make their jelly. The flavors are wonderful. The problem sometimes with purchased grape juice is the color may not be there and it may also have pectic enzymes in it (a harmless pressing agent that allows more juice to be pressed out.) The enzyme may make it difficult for the jelly to set up. Always use pectin in your jellies according to the instructions. - Bill


05:04 PM 8/21/02 - Vasudev Murthy <Vasu@renaissance-it.com
Hello - Could you tell me if you conduct candle-making classes? My wife will be in the Rochestor MI area next month and is interested in enrolling for a class if one is offered - Regards, Vasu

  • I am sorry but we do not conduct candlemaking classes. - Bill

10:50 PM 8/19/02 - mldy@charter.net
I am searching for a source to buy ground up beeswax to use making my lotions and creams. Do you have this available?

  • We do not sell ground up beeswax but many people making lotions & creams purchase our small beeswax bars:
    or other bulk wax from our bulk wax page: - Thank you - Bill

Tue, 6 Aug 2002 - achille2k@hotmail.com
Comments or questions: When are your winemaking grapes generally ready to harvest? In particular I am interested in DeChanunac and Cayuga White. Also, do you sell winemaking supplies and liquid yeasts? Look forward to your reply.

  • We plan to open on September 6 this year and we will have DeChanunac and Cayuga White. We do not sell winemaking supplies or liquid yeasts although we usually have some dry years available. - Bill

Tue, 6 Aug 2002 - From: "R White" <valkilmer@cox-internet.com
HOW EXCITING:) - I am the august candle winner...robsno1gal@cox-internet.com - thank you so much!!!


  • Tue, 13 Aug 2002 - From: "R White" <valkilmer@cox-internet.com - OH THANK YOU SO MUCH!! THE BEESWAX TAPERED CANDLES ARE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!!
    DARE I BURN THEM??? HA HA HA....THANK YOU FOR THE CATALOG ALSO!!!
    GRAPES - HONEY - CANDLES AND ALL THE RECIPES HERE I WILL STAY!!
    HAVE A WONDERFUL UPCOMING AUTUMN!!
    THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH
    DAPHNE WHITE:)

From our August 2002 Issue
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Spring Frosts
Large Candles
Grape Hull Jam?
Three Rivers, MI

Meadery in the Traverse City area?
800 lbs. of grapes last year
Moulds & Scents


July 15, 2002 at 10:14:19 - michael.o'grady@gm.com
Did the late spring frost (May 19/21) damage any of the red wine varietals? You have a Pinot variety and another small-berry variety I picked last year. (although most of the Pinot was gone already).   See you in September!

  • The late spring frosts did a lot of damage (see april-may-june newsletters) but the 3 red wine types, Baco Noir, dechaunac, & Marachel Foch did pretty good. Make sure you are subscribed to our newsletter (Monthly and the 4 week grape update issues) Then you will get the most update information. - Bill

July 24, 2002 at 10:58:40 - LRuehlen@beaumont.edu
Have bought before. Interested in largest block/pillar candles for full time burning in my home.

  • Thank you for your recent candle order, you should be receiving it soon. Our largest candles are on our Pillar Page . You may be interested in our 9 inch Hexagonal Pillar, Our 9 inch Cylinder Pillar, our Lord's Supper Pillar, our Large Ball Candle, our (largest) 2 wick Hex Pillar, or our new Cut glass Pillar (still on sale for $12.75 through August). (I know you have purchased some of these in the past)
  • We are in the process of getting moulds for a Nativity Scene and we will have these figures available individually or in a full set. I do not know the price yet. - Thank You - Bill


July 26, 2002 at 18:57:46 - su72525@aol.com
Do you have a recipe for grape hull jam? Thanks!

  • I am not sure what you mean by "grape Hull jam". Is it the same as regular jam made with the skins of grapes.
    We have some info on our web page     If you whave some good recipes please send them to me . - Bill

7/22/02 - Allison4478@aol.com
I was wondering if you could tell me if there are any honey bee farmer in the Three Rivers, MI area that takes care of honey bee problems in peoples houses. We have bees that have made a home in the bricks of our house and there are coming in side also. We heard that the honey bee is becoming hard to find so we really don't want to kill them. Well, we got them and if someone else wants them they can have them. Thanks for your time - Allison

  • Allison
    I do not know beekeepers in that area.
  • It also may be difficult to get a beekeeper to help you this late in the year. There is an old saying. A swarm in may is worth a ton of hay, a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon, a swarm in July ain't worth a fly. (There is not enough time left of the year for the swarm to build up large enough to survive the winter.) It is also very difficult to remove a swarm from a building, the building has to be partially taken apart.

    Most likely the bees will die over winter due to varroa mites. If the bees are a nuisance it may be better to call an exterminater. - Bill


Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:17:07 - SANDRA STEWART - harleygal_1@msn.com
Do you know if there is a Meadery in the Traverse City area? I was told by a vendor at a show that she got her beeswax from a Meadery in the Traverse area, I checked with the Mich. winery site, and they weren't aware of one, told me to check with the Traverse Chamber of Commerce. I thought perhaps you or your readers might know of it.
Thanks for any assistance, - Sandi

  • I do not know of a meadery in that area, but I will ask our readers for input. - Bill



Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:29:00 - Bigmoe3272@aol.com
My cousin and I came up their last year to pick grapes I belive we picked about 800 lbs. I have herd alot of stories about how the cold snap took a toll on the grapes in Michigan.So tell me are the grapes plentyful this year?Are they the same as last year? Thanks - Angelo

  • The grapes suffered a lot of freeze damage this spring but although the concord types are not too plentiful, the red wine types, baco, foch & dechaunac look pretty good. Check our may-june newsletters from our newsletter archive and make
    sure you are subscribed to our monthly and the grape update newsletters. Then you will have the most updated information.
    Bill

August 1, 2002 at 00:34:11 - char7023@msn.com
What kind of molds do you use to make your tapers?

  • Our hexagonal bayberry scented tapers use a rubber mould. All of the 6, 9 & 12 inch tapers are hand-dipped and do not use a mould at all, just a wick on a special frame.

 


From our July 2002 Issue
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Field of Flowers Nunnery -Beeswax Soap
Creamed Honey Crystals
Dried Honey
6 BUSHELS OF CONCORD GRAPES
Beeswax Votive Scents

4/9/2002 -0400 - rnyingmapa@earthlink.net
Greetings; Our nuns from The Field of Flowers Nunnery, make bees wax soap, they say it helps set the wool after spinning also after weaving. Sorry, we use butter lamps in Temple.
Keep up your good works. Tshering (monk)
--- Acarya Von Thronsohnhaus
    Thank you for the reply. Do you have any good recipes for beeswax soap. I have been toying with the idea of putting soap (mostly with beeswax) on our site. I have never made soap but have been doing some reading on it, find it very interesting & thought it would fit in with our beeswax candle stuff. Do you really use butter in the Temple, I didn't think butter would burn well?
    6/18/2002 -0400
    Greetings: Sorry Tsering is at one of our Monasteries, I, rLing will try to assist. A nun gave me a basic recipe.1/2 cup Lye flakes (red devil?) with 2 cups COLD water. Do this out doors, Fumes! Melt 1/2 cup of fat or oil-add melted bees wax 3-1/2 cups >heat & mix 120-130 degrees F. Lye at 90-95 degrees F. (do not heat lye-let cool to 90-95 F.)Mix in large bowl(NO aluminum)stirring often for an hour. Meantime grease mold and line with plastic wrap. When soap is consistency of pudding, add scents or colour you wish. Let soap rest (overnight ?24Hr?) put on a cloth cut into bars-or just unmold. leave 2-3 weeks turning occasionally. Age is the secret. We donot use beeswax soap until its almost a year old.. Butter soap 3 months , Cooking fat soap 2 months. I am on call til Tsering returns, I will be speedy to your problems or questions. The monks are introducing Buckfast bees (Queens)? to our mountain bees. Sourwood! is oncoming I am told. Nuns are ga! thering herbs for Meds. Very busy, Sorry about such a long delay. We do more than pray Walk one with nature rLing
    We are located Macon County outside of Franklin NC . Yes we use Butter Lamps, burns not unlike olive oil. - rLing


7/3/2002 -0400 - fngrtips@frontiernet.netHi Bill;
I wrote a while back re: honey vinegar. Looking forward to replies in your new section of the news letter. Now I have a new question re: creamed honey. My honey crystals are too large this year and I am having a problem grinding them down. Do you have any suggestions? Also could you send me a receipe in kindergarden format of how to make it. I do about 7 lbs at a time and I'm not happy with how it is coming out. Also, exactly what do you beat it with? I was using the whip attachment to my kitchen aide and got so much air that I was having a problem with consistant weight so I went to the larger beater that's a little better but now it's nothing like the creamed honey you see in the store.....as a matter of fact, it's creamer. Do you have any suggestions? How do I get smaller crystals for my creamed honey next year?
Thanks for the info - Jan Mackie-Cobb - Fingertips
     

    Sounds like you are making "whipped" honey rather than "creamed" honey.

    I add about 10% or so of fine crystal honey that you can purchase and use as a starter or take a small amount of creamed honey and grind it smooth with something. When I make creamed honey I add about 40 - 60 lbs of "seed" to a 450 lb tank. I DO NOT WHIP OR BEAT IT AT ALL. It is just smoothly mixed in and then bottled & it will usually set up in about a month or so at 60 degree temps.

    Most raw honey will granulate naturally with small crystals - the source of the honey sometimes influences this. Star Thistle or clover honey usually granulates with small crystals & some dark honeys granulate with coarser crystals.

    Some people like the "whipped" style with more air in it & it would be lighter in weight.

    Good luck with your creamed honey - Bill


July 2, 2002 at 11:55:43 - info@kikawaida.comComments or questions: I am seeking "powdered honey" if such a thing exists or "granulated honey" to use in a line milk & honey bath & body products I am trying to create...Can you help me or point me in the right direction, I know the value of honey in skin care and I am seeking a form I can use in skin preparations without it being sticky,prone to spoilage or bacteria etc. Any assistance you could provide would be most appreciated.    K. Johnson
     

    I have heard of someone trying to develop a "dried honey" but I don't think it is one the market yet. Many people use honey or beeswax in soaps and body products. Honey will always be sticky, I suppose it depends on how much you add. Honey is not prone to spoilage at all. If fact, bacteria will not grow very well in honey since the honey tends to suck the moisture out of the bacteria. Honey has been used throughout history to cover wounds to hasten healing until better things were developed. Honey is also added to baked goods to prevent spoilage. - Bill


6/23/2002 - JOEY@MENNIES.COMHELLO - I AM IN NEED OF 6 BUSHELS OF CONCORD GRAPES THIS FALL. CAN YOU HELP ME? PLEASE REPLYTHANK YOU - JOE BOGGIO JR - HENNEPIN IL 61327
    Like many areas in Michigan our grapes suffered a severe freeze this spring. Our concord supply will be very short this fall. However it looks like we will have a slightly better crop from our red wine grapes, Foch, Baco & DeChaunac. Check our website in the fall for availability. - Bill

6/22/2002 - mckillopt@aol.com Comments or questions: Does the scent you use in your beeswax votive candles free of animal products? In particular does it contain musk? I have allergies, but love having candles. Thanks for any info, - T. McKillop
    We get the scents from Pourette Candle Co. & as far as I know they are vegetable based essential plant oils.
    We offer our votives in cinnamon, honeysuckle, bayberry, Christmas Spruce, lilac, rose & natural beeswax. Bill

From our June 2002 Issue
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    Cylinders, farm improvements, Concords, Queen rearing, naturally granulated honey


     

Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 08:51:54 -0400
From: "Lawrence Ruehlen" <lruehlen@smtpgw.beaumont.edu>

Dear Bill,
Your products are excellent. I slid on in just now and thought I'd buy some items but the specials have expired as of May 31 and have not been replaced by new specials as of yet. We are big fans of Beeswax products at our home and as a Seminarian I burn candles continuously at home (24/7). Usually buy by the box and this gets very costly for 9 day cylinders etc. My last order has long since been burned. Have a blessed day,

Dr Lawrence Ruehlen - Roman Catholic Diaconal Student

Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 09:10:50 -0400
From: "rjmaloney" <rjmaloney@mindspring.com>

How about scented candles?? How about a map on your website each week?? How about publishing your store hours on your website??? How about a soup and sandwich deal on weekends for those of us who would like to take a little day cruise to your place from our place in Flushing?? Your enthusiasm is obvious,but how about some of these and other new ideas?? Would be happy to see some more new ideas addressed!!!Bye for now, from an old wine maker, and old wine drinker.  Bob Maloney..
    Thank you for your input. We do sell scented candles & votive and we have directions to our farm in a link on our navigation bar. What do you mean by a map each week? ?from different locations? We are not open for walk in sales except during Sept & October, but I think I need to make that more clear on our main pages. That has been handled in the past through a pdf copy of our mailed newsletter, but I think we need some improvement. I don't know about the soup & sandwich thing - we are not really set up for that, but we will think about it.   Thank you very much for the comments.
    Bill

12:02 PM 5/9/2002 -0400
connie knie - CKnie23100@aol.com

My mother and I searched high and low two years ago and found your farm. We live in Farmington. We came that year and got great grapes and made jelly that got rave reviews. Last year we made the long drive only to find there were absolutely no Concords and we were out the first week! What happened and do you expect problems this year? We are planning on calling ahead this time......
We enjoy your letter and your farm - connie knie
    We hope to have plenty of concords this fall. Last year we had a very small crop due to a frost and also someone from Indiana came and picked a large amount and helped to clean us out. I hope you also try adding other blue concord types such as NY. Muscat, Buffalo, Price & Stueben to your jelly mix, or try making white jelly with Niagara, Delaware, or GW-5.You will get an email in the fall with ripening conditions. You also could possible win a bushel of concords just for being on our mailing list.See you in the fall - Bill
     

    (Note this message was sent before we had the bad freeze in mid May. It is now possible that we may have some shortages of some varieties. So please check our website and our recorded message.)

     


11:56 AM 5/13/2002 -0400
Tom Roberts - troberts@hrc-engr.com

I found your site very interesting. I'm especially interested in your Queen rearing adventure. Have you done this before? I took Sue Cobey's QR class last year and plan on rearing some queens this year myself. I'd love to get together and talk bees sometime. (Even by e-mail if need be since I'm very busy right now and I expect you're quite busy too.) Looking forward to hearing back from you, Tom Roberts Ortonville, Michigan

     

    Tom
    We run about 150 colonies and have been raising our own queens succesfully for more than 10 years. We use the Jenter system of grafting which works very good. If fact I was grafting queens this am & took queens cells to bee yards in the afternoon. I usually just take the cells a few days before they hatch out, put them in a special "traveling nuc box" that I built and use them when I make splits.

    This year I am using the new SMR mite resistant queen stock. The cool wet weather makes my yields somewhat lower than usual but since I have 3 jenter boxes I can make up for that.

    Try your hand at queen raising. You have much more control over you stock. I spent $100 on 2 queens and hope to have about 50-75 new colonies headed up with the new stock. 1-2$ a queen is not bad.

    I have used russian carnies in the past, tried to find hygenic queens & used them or sometimes or just find a colony that performs good & used her as the queen mother.

    I start raising queens fairly early since I want them to hatch out during my spring period. I also take time off of work during this period so I have to have things timed pretty close.

    I will try to get some pictures of the grafting tomorrow if I can & have them on next months newsletter.

    Good luck with queen raising.
    Bill


07:51 PM 6/4/2002
Christopher - BigCMac@gte.net

Hello,
I am interested in the 2 gallon pail (24 lbs) of unprocessed honey and have a question. What does "naturally granulated when you receive it" mean? I understand from your website that the honey is not pasteurized or processed but am not familiar with "naturally granulated" terms. Thanks in
advance. - Christopher

     

    Christopher:

    This honey is totally unprocessed. I extract into a 100 gallon tank & these pails are filled directly from this tank. The honey will granulate in about a month on its own. When I make our "creamed" honey I add a "seed" of granulated honey that makes it granulate quicker. I then might add fruit or spices to this honey.
    Naturally granulated when you receive it is a reminder that is is SOLID and you must melt it to use it.

    Bill

 

     

    Well I am a first time mead maker and am looking for bulk honey and you have it for an affordable price. I am not familiar with the process of melting either, what does this involve?

    Christopher:
    Raw honey such as in these 2 gallon pails can be melted by putting them in a hot water bath (on the stove). Just do not heat the honey over 135-140 degrees.
    Or you can wait until September and bring a container and get liquid raw honey from the barrel at our sales stand when we are open. - Bill


 

     
From our May 2002 Issue
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    Beeswax soap, botulism in beeswax, ear candling, Honey Vinegar, melting honey, winemaking contests
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:7:46 -0400 Greetings; Our nuns from The Field of Flowers Nunnery, make bees wax soap, they say it helps set the wool after spinning also after weaving. Sorry, we use butter lamps in Temple.
Keep up your good works. Tshering (monk)
--- Acarya Von Thronsohnhaus --- rnyingmapa@earthlink.net

4/12/2002

I was wondering if you could answer my question. I am very concerned. I recently purchased some bees wax and I am told it can contain botulism or bacteria. Can it hurt the person that is melting the wax or the ones that burn it as a candle? Thank you very much - totally concerned! - taylorrebeca@aol.com
    I don't think you have anything to fear. In the first place the flame in ANY candle will destroy bacteria, and remember when a candlemaker melts the beeswax to make candles the wax reaches at least 160 degrees. It is true honey can probably can contain botulism spores - as can any raw fruit or vegetable such as salads, carrots, broccoli, apples etc. Raw vegetables should not be fed to children under 1 year old since their stomachs cannot handle the slight amount of bacteria that exists in ALL RAW FOOD!

    There is no hazard in beeswax candles - you should handle them exactly as you would handle raw food - you probably would not let a tiny baby chew on them. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE GETTING BOTULISM FROM BEESWAX!

    Burn your candles in peace
    (Probably the biggest hazard in candles is the flame) - Bill

4/5/2002
Hi!
I would like to know if you carry candles used for "ear candling" ??? They are made of beeswax, and rolled - yet hollow inside. If so, please advise how much they cost?
Thank you so much. Lucy - brightidea@usa.com
    I am sorry but we do not carry ear candles. BUT .......... we will do some research

4/5/2002 - fngrtips@frontiernet.net
Dear Bill:
Steve and I are beekeepers in Hillsdale County. I have been looking for a recipe for Honey Vinegar......just honey and water. The vinegar making books use fruit juices and/apple juice or cider and are not very clear. Do you know where I could find a recipe with exact amounts, time schedule and ingredients (water and honey) for this item? A step by step set of instructions. If you do or someone you know does would you please let me know.
Steve and I enjoy your newsletter and find it chock full in good information.
Thank you for your time    Jan Mackie-Cobb
    Just off the top of my head I do not have a recipe, but vinegar is just wine that has been infected with vinegar bacteria and let it run its course. You would basically take mead (some directions on page http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/meadmaking.htm) (or try buying a bottle) and add some vinegar (with the "mother" - the sediment) to it. I use a lot of Mrs. Braggs raw apple cider vinegar & you could try adding that to the mead. I know this may not help much, but your have given me a very good idea about adding a section about wine vinegar & mead vinegar to my site. If you come across some good info please send it to me, I will also do a little research. ( I will put these new pages on my "do list") Another comment about Mead Vinegar from our readers:
    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 - I can make a suggestion on that regard.
    I would make a mead with 1-2 lbs of honey per gallon of water. Add a champagne yeast with a low attenuation (one that leaves some sugar behind). Do NOT use bread, Ale or Lager yeast. Ideally you want 6% alcohol when you are done. With lower specific gravities, this shouldn't take too long to ferment. When it's done, rack it to a new fermenter, leaving the yeast residue behind. Get a Cider based vinegar culture from a wine shop. Typically the culture is enough to convert the alcohol in 1 gallon of brewed material to vinegar. Add the vinegar culture. Allow air to get into the mixture by covering the opening of the fermenter with a light cloth - do not make it air tight as vinegar bacteria need lots of oxygen to convert vinegar. Let it sit in a warm dark place for 6-8 weeks or so. then bottle and age it for a couple of months to stabilize and round off the flavor. Be sure to run it through a filter like a coffee filter when bottling to capture the goo that get generated. Also avoid using the second fermenter that you've had vinegar culture in for use in making mead or beer in the future or you'll get some interesting brew! hope that helps!
    From: "Dan Benson" <danielbenson@hotmail.com

    Another comment about Mead Vinegar from our readers:
    Mead vinegar is made like apple cider vinegar. Check my site or my book for more details.
    LJD
    Lawrence Diggs aka The Vinegar Man
    Vinegar Connoisseurs International
    The Grand Central Station For Vinegar Information
    Roslyn, SD, 57261, USA http://www.vinegarman.com


February 20, 2002 - the_descoll@hotmail.com

I have a rather large jug of honey that has started to get very thick and difficult to pour. I know that one can microwave it to thin it out, but I find that this also causes crystals to form.
Can you offer a more permanent method of thinning honey that will keep it less viscous over a greater period of time. I would prefer a method that does not require me to heat the honey in the microwave or in hot water every time I want to have honey on my morning toast. Thanks very much for your time and attention! - Mike Pettinger
    Try warming the honey in a hot water bath on the stove. Stir it occasionally to get it heated evenly & all the crystals are melted. (Getting ALL the crystals melted is the key) Heat it to very hot tap water temp (about 130 degrees). This should completely liquify the honey for at least 3-4 months. A microwave can also work good, but with caution. No metal lids of course. It must be rotated many times or one side will get too hot (& burn the honey) & the
    rest not melted enough. If the honey is not completely melted the remaining crystals will cause the honey to re-granulate quicker. The microwaving action by itself will not cause crystals, it is because of the incomplete melting. You may want to split the honey into smaller container.
    Good luck - Bill

         

At 01:10 PM 4/16/2002 -0400
Dear Mr. Schnute,
I was wondering if you had any info or website referrals to the Michigan State Fair Amateur Wine Making contest for this summer. I made some tasty Seyval Blanc and Marechal Foch with your grapes from last fall, and would like to enter them in the annual wine judging. Pictures on your website indicates that others have been sucessful with your grapes in competition.
I contacted the Michigan State Fair directly as well as scoured their website, but no luck. I think the contest is held in Lansing each July. If you have any specific information regarding this event, I would be grateful.
Thanks in advance and see you at harvest. Steve Boskovich
sboskovich@aol.com
    Steve: I sent an email to some people that won last year & will soon get a reply When I do I will send you the info & also put it in our newsletter. I think more people should enter.    Bill
    From: WCPaetzIII@aol.com
    Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:40:09 EDT
    Subject: Re: State Fair Amateur Wine Making contest


    Dear Bill,
    It was great to hear from you! Life is really exciting and changing fast! Regarding your query on the Michigan State Fair all entries would be welcomed. Here is all that needs to be done: Write Michigan State Fair and ask for a copy of the Community Arts and Crafts Premium Book. This has the
    rules, schedule and premium list. In this book is Department III canning and preserving: Section 8 is wine. To obtain this book and the entry information:

    Write to: Michigan Department of Agriculture
    Michigan State Fair
    1120 West State Fair Avenue
    Detroit, Michigan 48203-1040

    or:Call the office at:313-369-8260 or Fax: 313-36-8499
    or: www.michiganstatefair.net
    .
    Please note that only wines made with produce grown in Michigan are eligible for entry in this competition. Such as grapes or honey from Honey Flow Farm. The time to submit entries is in late July with Judging in August. (The deadlines are published on the cover of the Premium Book) This is one of the friendliest and most exciting programs an amateur wine maker can get involved in. It is very gratifying, fun and educational. Please do all you can to increase the number of contestants. There is no better way to spend an exciting summer day then to watch the judging of this wine tasting and then see the many compelling exhibits and thrilling events of the Michigan State Fair.

    Last year the judges included Mr. David Creighton who is a Promotional Specialist with the Michigan Grape and Wine Industry Council and Linda Jones who is the Program Manager of the Michigan Grape and Wine Industry Council. They both possess sophistication, class and a grape sense of humor. Everyone in the audience enjoyed their comments and learned the elements of judging first hand. I know that one of my wines, a Niagara with high acid and intense flavor had the most incredible facial expression from all of the judges, this
    was followed by a smile and the comment "This is a very very interesting wine." There were no derogatory remarks made about any of the wines so no one should feel intimidated. Once the judges rendered their decisions for each class everyone could understand the elements they were looking for.

    If you enjoy making new friends, the subject of wine, or have a need to know....Don't miss this fun event. It is held in doors in the Arts and Crafts Building. Starts early on a Saturday morning and lasts about two hours depending on entries.

    Warm and Sincere Regards from an Old Friend.
    W C "Sandy" Paetz

         
       

Our 2001 Message Board

Tue, 2 Oct 2001 - oreo2@prodigy.net Thanks so much for your recipes for grapes! My neighbor's father grows grapes and had an excellent harvest this year so we received more than we could just eat. None of my cookbooks really had any suggestions even for how to make a pie with them. Fortunately I found your web site. Thanks so much! Sincerely, Mrs Brenda J. Gurney, West Webster, New York

Mon, 10 Sep 2001 From: vjcphoto@wans.net
I began my first batch of wine with Concord Grapes by picking through them, heating them on the stove for a few minutes and then putting the mixture through a sieve. I came up with about a gallon of juice (without skins) and placed it in the refigerator until I begin the fermenting process. I am thionking of not using any yeast and fermenting the juice in a glass gallon bottle. Do I need to put the juice through a cheesecloth to extract some of the precipitate? Do I need to add water to the juice?
What temperature does the juice need to sit at in order to ferment properly? How long? How often do I decant the sediment? thank you! - Vincent Cianni
    Vincent - I hope your wine is fermenting by now. You have done a few things that are not usually recommended. Heating the must is not usually a good thing - it usually will kill the yeast and the must will not ferment unless you add a cultured wine yeast. If you want to extract color, the fermenting process will do that for you. Most people crush the grapes, remove many of the stems, and let it ferment on its own yeast or add a wine yeast. After a few days let the wine run through cheesecloth and press it lightly. Some people add water & sugar to the original must, but many people just ferment the grapes alone.Putting the mixture through a sieve is sort of drastic. If you crush too many seeds, you will impart a very harsh taste in the wine. Check out the following links for winemaking info:
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/homewinemaking.htm
    http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/articles/index.htm
    http://detnews.com/wine/columns/990916winemake.htm

Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:10:00 -0400 - From: "mkogrady" <mkogrady@home.com I am normally a home brewer but want to take a stab at some wine this year. Hown many #'s of grapes needed for 6 gallons of must? The red grapes - what type of wine will they make (other than "red"). Is it light, heavy, merlot-like, pinot-niorish....????
    Reply - Home wine making is quite easy. Use about 2 bushels (80 lb of grapes) for 6 gallons. Foch grapes make a little heavier wine & Dechaunac makes somewhat lighter wine when fermented on the skins.

Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:50:58 -0700 (PDT) - jamesstegner@home.com
Have the juices you sell for wine making rested with the grape skins? I know Michigan grapes are high in acid and resting helps. Thanks, jim stegner
    Reply -To make our juice, we crush the grapes & immediately press them. Unless you are making red wine, where the skins are left in for a few days, most people immediately press them, unless your are using a pectic ensyme pressing agent & then you may wait a few hours before pressing. The acidity in Michigan grapes is higher than California grapes, but it usually is an advantage. California grapes are sometimes so low in acid that they taste flat, the acidity in Michigan grapes help retain flavor.

Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:11:58 -0700 - HoneyBee52000@yahoo.com I stumbled across this website on accident... and I am so glad I did! The pictures were wonderful and the information I've received is amazing! Thank you for making such an easy site to follow!

Sat, 18 Aug 2001 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) - lll46902@yahoo.com Hi my cousin and I have been making our own wine for 10 years now.We have been picking grapes(concord) on a small farm in barrensprings Michigan.The farmer told me that this year is a bad year for grapes and it wouldnt be worth our time to pick this year.Do you have the same problem?If not how much do you charge? We need around 1000 lbs.Yes we make alot of wine.Please let me know soon and if you dont have any grapes this year maybe you might know somebody that does.Thanks alot Angelo Liali
    We have lots of grapes - for red wine we have Foch, Baco Noir & DeChaunac + lots of concord types - please check our grape list at http://www.honeyflowfarm.com/vineyard.htm. We have 6 acres of grapes that are sold U-Pick to winemakers. Download & print a copy of our newsletter for prices. Prices are .35/lb for 1000lb or more. Most of these grapes will be ripe by mid September. (Many grapes in Michigan had a problem with frost in May & also cool temps that greatly affected berry set - although we had some of these problems, they were more severe in the western side of the state) - Bill

Monday, June 25, 2001 8:40 PM - MARCO GODOY - mgodoypr@yahoo.com I am enthusiastic about michigan-made wines.I would appreciate,if possible,to provide me information about your wines and some others that are produced in your state via the internet.   Thanks, Marco Godoy
    We do not produce wine but sell more than 20 varieties of wine grapes to home winemakers. I encourage you to start making you own wine, it is not difficult.

Sun 6/24/01 5:25 PM - mbnimrod2@aol.com do you sell the sludge from your processed honey and if you do how much? thx. mark
    We do not sell slumgum (the sludge remaining after extracting honey) - After cleaning our wax melter (during the extracting process) we pour the hot slumgum into newspapers and roll it up and then use it for fireplace fuel. Usually it is somewhat difficult (must use a hot wax press) to remove the useful wax. What would you use it for?

Wed 6/13/01 3:56 AM - gygantus@aol.com I'm looking for cherry blossom honey for cherry mead, Any ideas where to get the honey or if it even exisits.   Thank you.
    I do not know where to get cherry blossom honey. I have bees in orchards during cherry bloom and most of the nectar is both mixed in with apple blossom nectar and usually consumed by the honeybees during their spring build-up period. Cherry blossom honey is also very light colored and has very little "cherry flavor" if that is what you are after. If you want cherry mead, I suggest making mead with standard high quality honey with some cherries added during fermentation.    Bill

Wed 6/6/01 4:59 PM - Eugenica - eugenicak@hotmail.com I am interested in learning how to hand-roll beeswax candles. Do you know of any classes in the Boston area or perhaps a craft book that would include this subject?
Thanks in advance, Eugenica

Sun 6/3/01 10:28 PM - Ayse Blackley - ayse@sausage.com Hi I live in australia and am making red wine for the first time. Can you pls forward your newletter to me?

Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:37 AM - Melissa - mscipriani@lemelange.com How does the beeswax that you sell in 10# quantities arrive? 1 lb. blocks or what? Is it filtered and ready to use? Thanks! Melissa
    Reply - Our 10 lb packages of beeswax is the same grade of refined beeswax that we use in making our candles and is ready to use. We just pour it into small rectangular bread molds - the size varies from 1/2 lb, 1 lb & 2 lb. The 10 lb package is a combination of these.

Mon 4/23/01 - Jeffrey Sanda [jsan@plex-sys.com] Hi, Just wanted to let you know that I have already made a big dent in the 2 gallon pail I purchased on Friday. I put 14 pounds into a 5 gallon batch of mead. It took ages to get out of the pail, but the honey seems to be of very good quality and tastes great! The mead is already fermenting nicely and I hope to bottle it in a few months. I already have plans to use the rest in a 3 gallon batch of mead. That is, if I don't use it in all of those wonderful recipes in your flyer! Many Thanks! Jeffrey Sanda

Wed 4/4/01 - tritten@msue.msu.eduHi Bill,
Thanks for the note that you have updated/greatly modified your website. It looks great. Hope your spring goes well. Bob Tritten MSU Extension

Wed 3/28/01 - jkollins@columbus.rr.com I live in Ohio and was just browsing around and found your site. Very nice products in your store!

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - marvin lafrinere - mjoe35@hotmail.com Dear Bill: I was surfing the net for information to find a vineyard to purchase grapes for this fall wine making. I would like to try making a different kind of red wine instead of the concord grape. My question is what variety of grapes do you have at your vineyard. The other question I have is would you know what grapes are used to blend DAGO RED WINE and would the grapes you grow make a good dago red wine. I enjoy a good red wine and all I can remember about the wines that where called dago red always had a smooth taste and a good fruity or grapy flavor.This is the kind wine I would like to make even if it isn't called dago red. If you could help me out with any information I would appreciate it very much and would like to visit your vineyard and do some business with you. Thank you! Sincerly, M Joe LaFrinere - Cheboygan,Michigan
    Response -We sell dechaunac, foch and baco noir red grapes for red wine. you can blend them all together or use them separately. Dago red is just a name for home made red wine (often from grapes purchased from california) You can find dechaunac, foch or baco in some stores or them may sell it as a generic michigan red wine.

12/18/2000 - Chuck Could you tell me if honey bees are able to obtain nectar from grape flowers?
    Response: Honeybees can get nectar from grape flowers but only when there is nothing else around and they are really desperate. Everyone thinks I raise bees to pollinate the grapes, but not so. I rarely see bees in the vineyard when the grapes are in full bloom, only one time when the weather changed the time of the bloom in respect to the bloom time of the wildflowers did I see honeybees in the vineyard. When I work my bees in an apple orchard during full bloom, there are bees on about every flower, but not in the vineyard (at least my vineyard, other areas of the country could be different)
    Bill

10/09/2000 - W C Paetz - Rochester Hills, Mi. - wcpaetziii@aol.com
Dear Bill, Barbara and Pat, We started the year with some of your New York Muskat (10 Gallons, the following week we did some Horizon (10 Gallons) and then some Concord (ten gallons). This past week end we picked some Canadice Grapes. This should be an incredible year for wine. It is truly exciting to harvest the grapes and then cull the individual berries trying to get the greatest vintage for our wine. The change in seasons is very invigorating. It was summer when we began to visit Honey Flow Farms and last week end it actually hailed on us while we were in the vineyard. Looking forward to an incredible wine year. Although we did have to chaptalize some of our must the saccharometer was as high as 15% on our recent grapes this is almost unbelivable for Michigan. I measured the acidity at .65% - to .60% on all varieties. If the flavor is as intense as it was at harvest we will be enjoying these wines for years to come. Finding your vineyard was the coup of the year. In the past we have relied upon concord grapes from my backyard and orchard fruit for most of our wines. Any one can make wine from a kit, but your grapes allowed us to experience the total experience of wine production. I hope we can win you some medals with our wine at next years showings. Warm Regards and Best to You and yours,
W C Paetz

09/29/2000 - Michael Fiore - emailfiore@home.com - Berkley, MI Comments: Bill - My father and I love picking grapes every year!! It is a much better experience to pick Michigan grapes to make wine with than to buy grapes shipped from California. We are lucky to have your farm in Michigan.

         
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